Because of Nona Jordan’s Get Right With Money course, I have unwrapped a lifetime of bad habits and self-sabotaging beliefs around money and worth. I was delighted when she agreed to do an interview with me!
Your innovative course, Get Right With Money, uses yogic principles to help women heal their relationships with money and worth. How did you come to develop it?
I was SO worried about the “shoulds” of successful business and other’s perceptions that I was definitely playing at my edge when I first launched the program!! The success of the program has affirmed for me the importance of trusting your original medicine and sharing it with the world.When I began working with women who are running healing businesses – yoga teachers, coaches, massage therapists, energy workers, artists…. I realized that my long-time study and practice of yoga was woven into how I was coaching, so with this program, I really came out with it!! Specifically, I use the yamas to give spiritual entrepreneurs powerful practices that can guide their business actions without fail that will lead to success in a very sustainable and nourishing way.
Time and again, I’ve found that combining the yogic principles with solid business coaching leads to inspired, authentic action. That aligned action, when taken consistently, brings women to their true desires. To me, that is the fullest definition of success.
Why did you choose to structure your business in the way you did, i.e. as an online, location-independent operation?
When I met my husband, I was working in Corporate Accounting, managing a finance department. I knew with his lifestyle – he is an Air Force Officer – that my career as I knew it was over. I had already been noodling what was next for me, because I wasn’t fulfilled in my position. So when we got married, I knew that I was looking for a new career that was portable.I became a yoga teacher because I love yoga so much but also because I felt it would be a great, portable career. However, I found that though I love the study and practice of yoga personally and how it informs my business, it is not really my calling to teach yoga asana. So, the search was still on. After my daughter came along and we moved to Italy, I was working at the Embassy in Rome as a teacher and a trainer. I was fascinated by that point in time where people are learning something new and they just shut down and say, “I can’t do that – it’s not for me.” Seeing that, but knowing that they could OF COURSE do and be whatever they damn well chose to be inspired me to pursue coaching.What is utterly fabulous about doing this work is that during the two moves that we’ve had during the time I’ve been coaching, I’ve certainly slowed my practice down a bit, but I can continue to work as long as I have an internet connection. That can be a curse, but mostly it’s a blessing. I’ve found having my own business that goes with me wherever I go is just the most incredible freedom. I love it.
In the course, you talk about working only with the people who are a right match for us: the people who will benefit from our work. Can you elaborate?
Many times, practitioners say they can help anyone – that they don’t want to exclude. I find that is often driven by scarcity-driven fears: there isn’t enough work or money to go around, which is simply not true. In any case, most people who are in the business of helping or healing have a particular kind of person that they are really incredible at helping. Often (not always) the person they are best at helping is facing a similar challenge to one that they (the practitioner) has overcome to a certain degree.For example, I love women who are in the healing arts professions. I am a JUNKIE for yoga, massage, art, coaching, energy healing, acupuncture, etc. I’m a serial learner, like many of the women i work with and even though I have a business degree and I’m a CPA, when I left accounting, I had a deep aversion to actually being in business and asking for money when I began my business. I felt that even wanting to make money for doing spiritual work that I love was just fundamentally wrong. I wanted people to love my work so much, they would just pay me!! It was so confusing that I was honestly relieved when my daughter was born and I decided to not work for a few years.Fast forward to becoming a coach – I KNEW that the biggest hurdle I was going to face was going to be valuing myself and my services, asking for money, and talking about what I do without shame or feeling fraudulent. Now I didn’t know that I would actually become a money and business coach, though honestly, that is what I already was. ALL I talked about was creating authentic, spiritual, profitable business ventures – whether it was mine or others!!And of course, the basis of that is knowing yourself, who you love to serve and the intersection between your innate wisdom and what people need. That sounds so easy, but I have found it to be an ever-evolving work of creativity. Who I love to serve doesn’t change, but the how certainly has deepened and become more clear over the years. I attribute that to listening to my clients and also continuing to do my own inner healing work. I find that when people embrace the darkness and the parts they have perceived as broken and transmute them into the precious gifts that they are – it’s magic. It heals the practitioner and it provides the space and sustenance that allows others to heal. That is so damn valuable!!In any case, when you narrow your focus and define your audience, it helps to magnetize your right people to you. You become a beacon of light for those who are right behind you, feeling lost and alone, tossed in the sea of their struggle.
Where would you suggest that women (and men) start if they want to get right with their money?
The relationship that we have with money is almost always murky and shrouded in mystery – the truth is often obscured from us even as we are living out patterns of action that may or may not serve what we truly want. Money, and our issues with it, are often tangled up in some of our deepest wounding. One of the things I heard over and over as a child, would stop me cold whenever I stepped out and held myself in high regard and started promoting my business or charging money. It’s a familiar refrain that children of my generation heard (I hope parents don’t say it these days!!), “Who do you think you are?” Truly a soul-withering question designed to undermine self-value. That is just one example of a painful legacy that worked against me on so many levels, unconsciously, for many, many years.To get right with money requires a courageous deep-dive into our legacy – what we soaked up as children in terms of our families and our culture at large. What was “women’s work”? What did the people around you believe about money, wealthy people, spending, saving, inherent worthiness, the need to “earn”….Knowing this is ground zero – it can be incredibly painful, but it’s also liberating and ultimately empowering. When you know what you are working with THEN you can change it. THEN you can create the legacy of your choosing. It really does take a woman who is ready and willing to go deep and do the work. But it is so worth it – and so life-changing.
When is your next course?
The next Get Right with Money course will begin in mid-October of this year. In the meantime, I offer a do it yourself, 7-day guided journey through the Legacy Work for people to get started with on their own when they sign up for the Business Omm + Inspiration News on my site. For healers, teachers and coaches who want to begin working with their money and their business more intentionally, I also have the Money Mastery Support Circle where I offer energetic intentions for the group every day, monthly energy work for every person in the group, and practical reminders and nudges around financial targets and business intentions.Thank you so much Nadine for asking me such thought provoking questions – you are one of my very favorite yoginis and I love that you are helping women who have experienced trauma become embodied once more and make peace with their precious selves. You are a gift!!xoxo.
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